Pool-DEK is a temporary or permanent solution that can be installed in an empty or full pool. Maybe you have purchased or are interested in a property with a pool, which you may not need now, but you don't want to remove the pool if you sell it in the future. No, automatic pool covers rely on the buoyancy of the pool water to work and cannot be used in an empty pool. Rosie recommends covering the unused pool with a cover made from a composite material.
The composite is a wood polymer made from wood waste mixed with plastic recovered from shopping bags and plastic films. Composite wood is substantially more durable than 100% vinyl or plastic wood products on the market. One problem is that the drain was already “sealed” with some type of cement-like compound. See the photo, which I just took after removing the water again. It seems like it had to be a permanent solution.
I suppose I could try adding another layer. You might want to clean up what's there and put some hydraulic cement or other sealant deeper into the hole, rather than a skimmed seal. It seems that researching where the drain leads would provide some clues. It's hard to know what's going on on the Internet.
If it appears to be groundwater, perhaps treat it as if it were a basement with similar water intake remedies used in basements. If you can, try monitoring the area to see if that's where the water actually comes from. If so, take out the old concrete to see what it refers to and then use a mechanical plug or hydraulic cement, as Tyler mentioned. I'm not in a hurry with this project, so I like the idea of doing a little more research, as you and Tyler are suggesting. The safest option would be to fill it up, pour a slab and continue from there as a normal assembly.
Keeping the pool there in some way basically turns it into a basement. The question is: “Is your pool a good basement? I don't think anyone here can answer that, since there are a lot of variables. I suggest that you define how you would like to use it and then ask an engineer to approve the drawings. The main reason for this is that, if something strange happens to you, you don't want the insurance to deny the claim when your kitchen ends up sunk to the bottom. I think you're outside the bounds of much of the prescriptive code.
How has the current meeting been going so far? I would start monitoring the dew point and temperature. Depending on the existing configuration and your energy, comfort and resilience goals, filling it up can make a lot of sense. The real answer is to tear up the floor, skate over the pool and put the kitchen somewhere else. Thank you, Matt, this is the first time that it has been suggested to convert it into a small skate park. I'll add it to the list.
I took some photos of the floor assembly, attached. This is not a floating floor, but 2 x 12 inch pieces connected to joists connected to a 2 x 12 inch accounting board, with an additional stretch of polyethylene wood between that floor and the concrete. Above the beams there is an Advantech subfloor. Apart from the persistent puddle in the depths, I haven't noticed any other problems with the pool structure itself, like cracks.
Interestingly, I had not planned that the floor would be installed with the pool. Was this set originally inspected? If it was, check your building's file to see how they justified it. I think this needs the approval of the engineers. I don't know much about building swimming pools, but the original intention of the pool structure was not to install a floor there. Gunite is apparently stronger than standard concrete, but the wall shape is not ideal for a base.
The previous owner of our house left me two job offers to put a floor above the pool. The plan was to go up the floor, since the billiard room is 12 times lower than the main house. The second company was going to place sonotubular supports across the slab and hang a steel beam along the pool and then hang joists from the ground. It seems that the second company thought that the slab should not support the weight of the floor.
Your forum software is not compatible with PMs. It may be best to direct each other to another forum with PM or to ask one of the editors for help. Michael: I don't see any easy way to publish our email addresses privately. I have a LinkedIn profile so you can search for me if you're there too. I don't have any other social media accounts, but my daughter says that if you have Facebook, maybe I can search for you there.
I feel sorry for the other members who are receiving information about this while we work it out. I didn't receive the normal email in which my response was posted, so I'll try again. If we don't connect, good luck with your project Michael. I think the obvious solution is to fill it out, but I've had a hard time finding details on how to do it properly.
Hardwood floors are an interesting solution because you could remove them if a future owner really wanted the pool. This feature was temporarily disabled during the beta site preview. If you leave it empty, there is a distinct possibility that the walls will collapse due to the weight of the sand pushing inward. You must hold the pool along the pool to prevent this from happening. My friend just bought a house and I suggested covering the pool and turning it into an entertainment area.
Vinyl fabric comes with two options: you can install a mesh drain (standard) to allow water to drain from the deck, or you can opt for a pump (additional cost) to pump water out of the deck. It is common for these covers to be used for empty pools, but specific tests are not performed in the pool safety industry for fall protection. If you are going to cover it, you have to keep the water inside and maintain it or you have to permanently dismantle the pool and fill it or remove it. These systems are very popular in states where there is snow and they have to cover their pools for months at a time. If there is a chance that the pool will be reused, fill it with stacks of inflatable pools, boats, structures, and any other large inflatable you can find on Craigslist, then a safety cover will have enough support.
Keep in mind that when you use vinyl fabric, the amount of water in the cover will start to clog the cover and may cause premature wear of the material due to the weight of the water that pulls the material through the seams. You no longer have to place a fence or removable cover over the pool to meet the requirements of local safety ordinances.